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The Missing Piece in Longevity: The Top Gerontologist on Aging, Joy, and the Science of Thriving

unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

April 7, 2026 ∙ 82 mins
Episode 31

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In this episode of unPaused, Dr. Mary Claire Haver sits down with Dr. Kerry Burnight, a gerontologist and national leader in aging research who spent 18 years teaching geriatric medicine at the University of California Irvine School of Medicine and is the author of Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life's Second Half. Dr. Burnight brings a framework that is especially relevant for women navigating menopause and midlife: the key to good longevity is not how long you live. It is how much you love the life you are living. Dr. Haver and Dr. Burnight begin with the concept of joyspan itself, a term Dr. Burnight coined to name the missing piece between lifespan and healthspan. Drawing on the American Psychological Association's definition of joy as wellbeing and life satisfaction, they explore why joy is not a luxury add-on to healthy aging but a measurable, cultivatable vital sign. Dr. Burnight explains the distinction between joy and happiness, why happiness is circumstantial while joy is an inside job, and how Viktor Frankl's research on finding meaning under extreme suffering forms the scientific and philosophical foundation of her framework. They also discuss Yale University research showing that aging beliefs alone can impact longevity by up to seven and a half years, influence inflammation levels, and affect disease expression, making the way women think about getting older one of the most powerful health interventions available. Guest links: Dr. Kerry Burnight Dr. Kerry Burnight (Instagram) Dr. Kerry Burnight (LinkedIn) Books:“Joyspan: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life's Second Half,” by Dr. Kerry Burnight “The New Perimenopause,” by Dr. Mary Claire Haver "The New Menopause," by Dr. Mary Claire Haver To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

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31

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April 7, 2026

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82 mins
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